unbelievable stuff…
I watched a movie on the weekend…
If you can call this a movie is something of a debate.. was more of a documentary of horror proportions..
I learn’t all about FA’s and Feeders and other nastiness!!
What am I talking about?
“Fat girls and their feeders”.
If you have seen this show then you will understand all I am saying..
FA = Fat admirer
Feeder = a guy who just force-feeds girls into getting as large as possible! They Grow their girls.. yes Grow.. arseholes..
WTF? Why would a person want to force feed anyone into a life of horror? Gina is the main character in the show who just looks so desperately sad all the time .. almost a pleading look for someone to end this life of hers .. and she is still doing all she can to keep this monster Mark in her life!!
Gina broke the record for being the fattest woman in the world in 2001 weighing in a whopping 380 kg’s!! This almost killed her and she underwent surgery to save her life which brought her down to 190kg’s.. And what did she get for her efforts?? Her screwed up feeder Mark wanted to leave her!!
” ‘I think that fulfilling Mark’s fantasy was tremendously kind of myself. I did it not without some sacrifice. Would I do it again? Probably not,’ she says now, five years after lifesaving surgery enabled her to shed half her maximum weight. “
Now we know why some mothers eat their young… Mark is a monster of infinite proportions who is treating Gina like an experiment to see how large he can grow her by his admission…
All I need is a hammer, some wood, coupla nails and tar.. Ill show him an experiment of mine..
After watching this show I have a couple of opinions on FA’s and Feeders…
I think FA’s are mostly inadequate men who are afraid of women in general and enjoy the power that come from being with someone who will do their bidding for a little bit of love and attention…
I think Feeders are monsters that need to be placed in facilities from birth and never be allowed in polite company…
I also believe that as people we are all beautiful regardless of our sizes.. the reality is that we cant all be skinny like Nicole Richie but that does not mean we should go to extremes to destroy our bodies just to see how big or small we can get? All them skinny chicks who starve their bodies to see how skinny they can get… Skinny is just as life threatening as fat is..
We all get busy in life and tend to neglect our health or overdo things..
I tell my kids every day… you only get one set of arms.. look after them.. you get one set of eyes… protect them… etc
And this is the truth as I see it..
So if you are a big girl…like me… don’t fall into the trap created by perverts like FA’s and feeders… They are not good for you… they will turn your life upside down to create a reality for themselves that gives them a hardon at your expense…
B
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I watched that i was horrified by it.. Just gose to show you never be too fat or too thin. So im kinda happy been stuck in the middle….
Dear Queen G,
in the middle??
In the middle of what ma’am??
The middle of the road??.. The middle of a debate??.. The middle of sexy time with your bald bf??..
Please clarify this for us poor minions…
B
Gina is a moron! Seriously, she is.
This story left me revolted. I cannot abide women who let themselves get abused.
Urg.
PS: You have a liddle plug on Entropy! Haa haa haa! The blog is in my blog roll.
I love fat chicks, but Gina is over the top. OK I dig love handles not total obesity
i agree, mark is a criminal. what he did was serious abuse. people who are a danger to others are supposed to be psychiatrically committed if there is no criminal offense. she needs to be committed too as a danger to herself.
Yes, I could not agree more.. Each time I remember this post I cringe .. It is a dark place for anyone to be in..
First just let me say that most of that program “Fat Girls and Feeders” was mostly fabricated. I have been in a feeder/feedee relationship with my husband for almost 15 years and it is consensual. I have never felt forced, coerced or abused in any way. Most feeder/feedee relationships are based on trust and love for each other the same way other so-called normal relationships are. Many people derive sexual pleasure from food and being fed by their partner. Why do you think many foods are considered aphrodisiacs. It very is natural to equate food with the oral pleasures. As far as feeders leaving their feedee after they get board or when health problems manifest themselves, I have only heard about this in rare cases. In fact Mark and Gina (the subjects of “fat Girls and Feeders”) are still together and will be for a long time to come. In fact I believe Gina wrote a letter to the producers of the show stating how disappointed she was in the portrayal of their lifestyle. Bottom line is don’t believe everything you see on TV. This type of so called journalism is the lowest form of sensationalism out there. Its only purpose is to garner ratings and of make money for the people who sponser it.
I think a lot of you people need to calm the fuck down. The bottom line is, it’s none of your business what two consenting adults do with their lives. Provide their actions do not violate the law, You should have nothing to say about it and to best of my knowledge becoming grossly fat does not break any laws in this country. Most people in this world are not equipt or qualified to judge other peoples personal lives. Worrying about how the other guy is slowly killing themselves is pointless. People take risks with their live on a daily basis and don’t even realize it. It’s only when something out of the ordinary comes along that the do gooders of this world come out of the wood work. They stand there and wring there hands and say “look isn’t this just awful”, and they don’t even realize how ridiculous they look.
Many of you seem to feel you have a moral right to criticize another’s lifestyle choices. But I ask you, how many of you are realy moral enough to take on that kind of responsibilty? As I see it, one of the problems we face as a society is the fact that, there are to many people worried about what their neighbor is doing and not enough about their own house.
WulfHeard and Fat Renee – I am happy that you are happy…k?
But I still don’t agree with what you say..
I don’t think Fat Feeders and their Feedee’s is a healthy relationship on the very same level as I don’t think that an S&M relationship is healthy..
That is MY opinion.. you have yours and I have mine..
And I just dont think I can relate to you and your lifestyle… Very much as I dont expect you to understand mine..
But thanks for commenting.. and keep well!
would you feel the same if he was starving her to death for aethetic/sexual reasons?
do you feel the same about battered wives who are too demoralized to leave?
the reason there IS such a thing as a community is that at certain times when things go pear shaped in private lives it is an advantage to the individual and there offspring that the community cares, by the way here’s an update from the woman herself (and blaming the tv crew for the impression).
http://www.dimensionsmagazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33664
Firstly, let’s just clear up something very important: FEEDERISM IS RARELY ABOUT ACTUAL FORCE-FEEDING. Rather, it is simply a person becoming aroused by their partner eating to excess or gaining weight. This is more likely to be consual and practiced with people known as ‘feedees’ than it is to involve force-feeding. Sorry, but your movie just portrays a worst-case scenario: yes people should beware of the monsters lurking in the ranks of feeders, but we’re not ALL monsters. I, for one, would never dream of doing what this Mark guy did, or even practicing Feederism without consent. Though don’t get me wrong, I do agree that in this case, if the movie was accurate and not blown up out of all proportion, the feeder is clearly a pathologically disturbed, dangerous villain who needs a lengthy spell in a psychiatric institution. I can’t speak for all feeders, but I feel ashamed that our ilk could have harboured such man. I know feederism does attract a disproportional amount of sickos (so be cautious), but again, that doesn’t mean ALL of us are. Secondly, and changing the subject a little, where do you get off on telling me FA’s are inafdequate? Just because we (feeders being a branch of FA) prefer a different figure to the rest of society? For pity’s sake! There’s nothing wrong with being attracted to a slimmer in itself form but don’t tell me my lot are in the worng for opting out! As for suggesting it’s only the control element that appeals to us- that’s just plain wrong. Sorry to pop your delusion, but the simple fact of the matter is that we genuinely just find a bigger lass (or lad, for female FAs) attractive. I’m not saying its a faultless sexuality. There are health risks associated with weight-gain or being overweight- so nobody should become involved in Feederism unless they’re absoloutely sure that’s what they want (so please, nobody read this post and decide to go test out my life style choice for yourself- I think you’d know if you were a feeder or feedee instinctively from the point of your sexual awakening during adolescence, so please don’t run the health risks of a test run). Having said all that, I’d add that the preference for super-skinniness is equally dangerous, as it may trigger a range of psychiatric disorders including bulima or body dismorphia. It’s a wonderfully diverse world we live in, with such varied sexualities, but it has its risks. It shouldn’t depress us, we just need to be aware of them and get on with our lives. Thirdly, and this really is my last point now, please don’t knock the sado-masochists, B, they might like odd things in the bedroom, but provided it’s all consensual, that’s not our business and they deserve to be judged as people, like everybody else, not just as two-dimensional charicatures of their bedroom preferences.
Hi, me again. First of all, to ‘because i can’, sorry about being so short tempered in my first comment. I know you don’t have any other point of reference into the world of FAs and Feeders than that movie- I shouldn’t have let myself get worked up by it. Now, please could I ask you to take my previous set of comments (and this one) down? It dawned on me once I’d posted it how damaging it could be. I won’t waste any more space explaining what I mean by this (I will e-mail you tommorow, instead of winding anybody up on this site), just please take my word for it that I know what I’m talking about on this occasion and take my comments (including this one, for good measure) off your page.
Sorry again.
Paul Tims – I appreciate your feedback on this subject. Are you certain that you want your opinion to be deleted?
I just wanted to clarify that everything in life is based on opinion. I have mine and you have yours.
Yours is obviously very different to mine and I am understandably not going to be able to sway you from yours and you will most definitely not be altering mine.
But lets just clarify a few things:
Feeder/Feedee relationships are dangerous and unhealthy fullstop. If you thought that humping a dead dog turned you on would you be a beastialnecrophiliac??? And would you then stand up and say that though it isnt for everyone it is consensual, sexually gratifying and an acceptable way of life?
I think not.. Just because you get off on it does not mean people dont get hurt or damaged along the way. And doesnt make it right nor acceptable.
But this is obviously my opinion, not yours.
Hi, because i can, sorry I took so long to get back to you. Firstly: yes, please remove my comments. Including this one, once read. The amount of psychological damage they could do to somebody new to the whole debate is a potential concern. Secondly as regards your point about bestialnecrophilia (a sentence I have to admit I never imagined I’d utter or type), what you have to realise is that there is a vast gulf of difference between Feederism and this abberration. Feederism is an extension of the F.A movement, which in turn has its origins in mankind’s original predalictions- being based on the idea of the fuller figure being a more fertile one. Naturally, back when we were still hunter gatherers, this form was sort after not only to ensure the continuation of the species but also as a form of status symbol or reassurence that the partner we had found was in good health and had access to a plentiful food supply. By comparison, bestialnecrophilia is simply sick. Not as in evil, just as in literally sick. In its sufferers, it is caused, I can only assume, by a misassociation of sexual desires with objects that should not, in a healthy psyche, be twinned to these desires. I would not hesitate to tell anybody with this dysfunction to go see a psychiatrist. Happily, I’ve drawn Fat Admiration and Feederism as my core sexual impulses in nature’s lottery, so I don’t have to consider the issue. I will say, however, that I wouldn’t leap to the conclusion that sufferers of such an affliction are monsters, merely very odd people. Finally, I’d just like to say that though I cannot risk leaving potentially damaging comments on the internet, I will be happy to answer any further moral queries you have on the subject of feederism via e-mail, should I have the time. I like to consider that my explanations are some of the most coherent and well-thought-out available on the subject, as though my research has not yeilded many facts and figures on the issue to quote at you, I have heard enough of the debate to have spent time thinking over it with some care.
I saw the documentary a few years ago and I still think of it every now and then. I cried watching Gina lie on the bed being filmed for the tape her husband made. I think it was supposed to look erotic or sexy, but all I saw was desperation and sadness in her eyes. The despair of a women caught in her own body.
I have certain thoughts on this whole feeder-issue. Being big myself I know it’s hard to find a man to start an equal relationship with. Some men find the body fat disgusting, others get turned on by it. But it’s about the fat and not about me. I also know that brings down my self esteem and I think that’s why big women like Gina accept that men like Mark bring them food. No, they don’t force the food on them, but they do want to see the women grow until they can’t walk anymore. Until they are a prisoner in their own home and a patient for the so called care giver. It must have been wonderful for Gina to have met a man who said he didn’t just like her figure, but he even supported her bad eating habits. Have you any idea how rare that is for a big woman in this society? Of course she let him feed her! He admired her fat and she (maybe he too) confused it for love.
I can’t decide for other people what love means, but really… feeding your wife to the point where she can’t walk or get out of the house… feeding your wife to the point where the food you bring her could give her a fatal heart attack any moment… feeding your wife to the point where she can’t be an active mother for your children… that cannot be love. Call it a fantasy or call it a fetish. Call it consentual or cohersion. Call it anything but love. If you love someone, you want them to live! You don’t participate in their slow death!
I also read the article where Gina said the filmers changed the footage so that it looked the way it did. But even if you look at fragments; Ttere is a woman who cannot walk or get out of the house. There is a woman whose husband is repulsed if she loses weight and lets her know that. There is a woman who is being filmed naked on the bed in a sad attempt to feel sexy, but only for his sexual needs. It’s sick to feed a human being to death and that’s what he was doing! She depends on him and they both know it. Her low self esteem prevented her from standing up to him and he enjoyed being in control. It’s not about love, or figure or fat. It’s about control.
I believe she finally decided to have surgery to lose weight and I was searching the web to see if I could find information. I would really like to know how she is doing now. I hope she has a long and healthy life and finds a man who loves her for who she is.
I think the definition of FA is way off course , but the definition of feeder is good to go. My boyfriend likes a big girl (a still able to function and have a happy fun life big girl..) but honestly..we have abetter relationship than most of my thin friends and their boyfriends do. And I am honestly not that easy to get along with. Im opinionated, bossy, etc and so on. I dont feel that I should be grateful for him loving me. I’m grateful he’s patient as hell, but he knows that if he were to be a dick or only give me a tidbit of affection here and there, I’d be out the damn door. Not all fat women fall on the feet of any man who gives them a wink. but I have had friends in the past who did that and i understand the thought. I think its a different world for big girls nowadays if we want it to be.
It really amuses me to read the outrage and revulsion some of you have for us feeders. Well I got news for you. Your moral outrage makes us laugh. This is reality and there is a lot of fucked-up shit out there. So get used to it, we feeders are least of your problems.
Like it or not, as long as their are fat pigs willing to sell their souls for a little loven and a life of over consumption we feeders are going to be there to take advantage of the situation.
Why are we to blame? why don’t you take a good look at the so called victims? Just how many of these obese people do you think would have contributed anything constructive to society anyway? Most would have ended up on public assistance because they are weak selfloathing parasites. So if you really stop to think about it we do society a service, we take these pigs in, care for them, make them feel loved and wanted and provide them with the pleasures they crave…FOOD as much as they can eat and then some. We even do the nasty jobs of cleaning them, something nurses in hospitals don’t even want to do. So what do you care if they get huge and die? We live with that problem not you. We’re the ones that have to pick up the pieces and start over.
So the next time you think of some fat 800lb slob as a victim, look at it from a perspective of reality . Feedees don’t deserve your sympathy any more than we feeders do, we’re just people getting our rocks off any way we can.
@miri “all I saw was desperation and sadness in her eyes. The despair of a women caught in her own body.”
http://www.dimensionsmagazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33664
First of all, I’m doing well. Mark and I are still together living in
Arizona. Our daughter is thriving, 15 years old, and getting good grades in High School, and pursuing her favorite after school activities of chatting with her friends and taking guitar lessons. She’s pretty good actually!
As for me, Ive gone back to school, after oh, way too long, and am attempting to get my degree in writing.
As for Mark, he’s still gainfully employed, 15 years at the same place, still frustrated with Company politics, but looking forward to retirement in 15 or so years.
Just as a caution, ANYBODY who is thinking of granting an interview should include a clause in their contract that says that you as the interview-ee will not be portrayed in a negative fashion. Heaven knows we learned our lesson… most painfully.
Thank you for your concern.. I really appreciate it. And also, thank you Observer for your kind and encouraging words.
Really really sad documentary